Dreams - A Halo 5 Montage ft. Rougzy & Emnion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k624wRrFrY

Incredible Halo 5 montage by the Alaskan stat Eminion and Rougzy "whip nosc" Nedza

Is this seriously 30 minutes long?

edit: Yep.

Don't like the type of gameplay in the video so I didn't get very far. 

Mute, maybe?
Yah... I'm not watching a 30 minute montage man, sorry. Hope it does well in the competition though.

lol my bad I for some reason read that as you didn't like the music. wtf brain?

 

Got through the first 10 minutes. Editing was actually pretty well done but the game play seemed like typical duck hunt stuff so it got boring pretty fast. 30 minutes is just way too much tbh, really should've trimmed this down. Also, I've never understood the point of doing a group montage if you're just going to separate all your game play lol. Might as well make separate montages because that's what it feels like anyways.

Yesterday was a pretty boring day for me so i watched the whole thing. tbh: I just wanted to see rob's edit - which was pretty decent. Sync and Flow was perfect and some nice angles here and there but otherwise there were nothing special. Soundtrack was totally not my style (except of that muse song) - which is pretty surprising cause rob always picks cool songs for his tages, maybe next time. Speaking of surprises: The gameplay wasn't a big one.  Which isn't bad if you know emnion's tages. He gets so many giant multis which i won't ever hit, not in 100 years. But there were no clip where i said: "OMFG, you didn't really hit that". In other Words: If you ask me what was my favourite clip, i couldn't tell you even one. Almost every clip was so generic. idk, maybe im not the right person to critique a H5 Montage. And the fact that the video is 30minutes long, made it even worse for me. I was always waiting for that ONE clip which would blow my mind, but there was none - or i missed it idk. And im not going back and watch the entire video. Seriously, i dont see a reason why i should rewatch this ever. Overall, good job guys (I know you hate these words because they are so vacuous haha). I know you put so much work into this. I respect that.

Oh , emnion once said, that there is too much cancer in this forum. So i am wondering why he  submitted this to the montage contest. Looks like someone needs some cash hahaha jk.

BTW: I know you guys from E&F (especially Rob) think that this ordinary and perverted style - which is also taking place in this video - is cool or funny. I find it pretty juvenile and stupid. But you can make what you want.

But there were no clip where i said: "OMFG, you didn't really hit that". In other Words: If you ask me what was my favourite clip, i couldn't tell you even one. Almost every clip was so generic.

This perfectly explains my feeling towards this montage, and a lot of social montages in general (especially in Reach). There are never any standout clips because everyone just grabs the same weapons, goes to the same spots, and gets the same type of clips. The biggest problem with duck hunt clips is that you're almost never in a position to make high-pressure shots because you're rarely being shot at. I love Kampy's, FatRat's, and Dutchy's montages because they're always in the middle of the action, hitting noscopes and sticks while noshields, etc. and I think people don't realize how important that excitement is.

BTW: I know you guys from E&F (especially Rob) think that this ordinary and perverted style - which is also taking place in this video - is cool or funny. I find it pretty juvenile and stupid. But you can make what you want.

Some would say playing Halo or video games in general above the age of 15 is juvenile and stupid, yet here we are, on the Halo Forum. I respect your opinions on the montage but lets not try to be superior or talk down to people.

 

Oh , emnion once said, that there is too much cancer in this forum.

Well, I think he feels that his content or other people in E&F (not me) gets bashed when they post on this forum. The comments in this thread so far certainly aren't helping him see differently. That's just his opinion though.

Well, I think he feels that his content or other people in E&F (not me) gets bashed when they post on this forum. The comments in this thread so far certainly aren't helping him see differently. That's just his opinion though.

All he's gotten in this thread so far is good, constructive criticism. If he thinks this is bashing, he needs to grow up lmao.

I for one loved this vid, especially the music :]
I didn't know you could play bots in Halo 5

I just thought I would give my two cents here a little.  I've been watching Rob put this video together for the past 6-7 months and I just wanted to clarify a few things.  The first is, the whole theme: the breathing, dicks and sex position font, and the porn audio was all part of a vision he had.  The porn audio and the font were especially relevant because of the lyrics to the third song.  This wasn't done trying to be funny or anything, it was simply done to try and make the theme as immersive as possible, and I personally think he nailed it.  Also, I understand the critique about the gameplay variety wise, but when you consider that Halo 5 really doesn't have the playlist variety to support a ton of variety in high multis (like Halo 3 or even Reach did for example), you quickly understand why most of these clips were in FFA.  Also, I would argue that a good amount of these clips were not "duckhunting" clips and were actually aggressive and under a fair amount of pressure. 

And the last thing I wanted to mention was, for me, this montage proves that you don't need anything insane in the the editing department to make a really enjoyable video, the flow and angles here were pretty much flawless.  I understand if you don't like Halo 5, but please don't judge the video until you have the time to watch the whole thing.  It just aggravates me when I see a quality video that took months to produce get a lot of shit and negativity thrown at it.   Rant over :)

I respect all the opinons, I just really can't stand negativity toward a good video.
I watched it twice now. Still enjoy it. Must have been hell editing a montage this long.
Not going to comment on the other stuff but tbh all the heavy breathing/porn audio just completely took me out of the montage and into a, "WTF am I watching" moment. It didn't help the montage at all and it's really confusing why Rob thought it might. It was a 30 minute montage of pretty good social gameplay but no variety, whether playlist wise or by mere innovation, so it's hard to stay focused that long and to get hit with things that interrupt the flow of the montage made me question why I kept watching when the gameplay was all the same.
I lol'd at the porn audio, Its hard to enjoy a H5 montage and you guys did alright.  Longest Halo montage of all time?
Sorry 2nd post...

I made it about 20 minutes through. Ill walk the other ten later.

The flow of the video was amazing, however like almost everyone else said, it's too long.

Some of the gameplay was pretty dam good as well.

Great stuff to everyone involved and props making a 30 minute video.

Mad respect for producing a 30-minute video. Why make a 30-minute video tho? It was good, couldn't finish it tho. I got bored.

I just thought I would give my two cents here a little.  I've been watching Rob put this video together for the past 6-7 months and I just wanted to clarify a few things.  The first is, the whole theme: the breathing, dicks and sex position font, and the porn audio was all part of a vision he had.  The porn audio and the font were especially relevant because of the lyrics to the third song.  This wasn't done trying to be funny or anything, it was simply done to try and make the theme as immersive as possible, and I personally think he nailed it.  Also, I understand the critique about the gameplay variety wise, but when you consider that Halo 5 really doesn't have the playlist variety to support a ton of variety in high multis (like Halo 3 or even Reach did for example), you quickly understand why most of these clips were in FFA.  Also, I would argue that a good amount of these clips were not "duckhunting" clips and were actually aggressive and under a fair amount of pressure. 

And the last thing I wanted to mention was, for me, this montage proves that you don't need anything insane in the the editing department to make a really enjoyable video, the flow and angles here were pretty much flawless.  I understand if you don't like Halo 5, but please don't judge the video until you have the time to watch the whole thing.  It just aggravates me when I see a quality video that took months to produce get a lot of shit and negativity thrown at it.   Rant over :)

I decided to try and watch the montage after reading this comment. Your conviction about his "vision" and using words like "immersive" got me thinking that some one actually did something different and actually did it well rather than just being edgy for the sake of being edgy: A growing trend in our community that is producing some of the worst montages i've ever seen across any game.

I made it to 15:00. The syncing in those fifteen minutes was nearly flawless, and the soundtrack, minus the moaning, was one of my favorites since a7x and muse are two of my favorite bands. I respected the use of time remapping, a dying trend that keeps videos on pace and speedy - It doesn't look great on h5 because the is game just boxy but i was happy to see it instead of a bunch of shitty random angles. The angles that were included were tasteful. As i was watching i felt like this was the only halo 5 video i wasn't going to be disappointed in, but then it just got too repetitive, even with the cinematic breaks in between the parts.

I'm obsessed with dreams and i was into lucid dreaming for a long time. The thought of shaping my own unreality was very very intoxicating to me when i was younger. The idea of recreating a dreamscape or sequence with halo was a really cool idea but it just wasn't executed at all in the main bodies i watched. The nightmare sequence didn't feel like a nightmare, it looked like a montage from 2007 (which might be a nightmare for some people). It would have been much cooler to make the whole sequence darker and instill some sort of narrative in the body itself, not just in the intermissions. It would have been easy to set up a narrative where you're being attacked by hordes of clones of yourself or completing an objective or game just to be transferred back to the beginning repeating it over and over. There are a hundred ways to make the part look like a nightmare before transitioning on to the next sequence.
From an editing standpoint i thought the psychic muse section was far too similar to the first in terms of effect selection (screen jars and brightness effects) and the music overall was too similar in the grand scheme of things in my opinion. I was hoping to see some premonitions, or players teleporting from map to map etc. it would have been even cooler to use more cinematics throughout the body to connect the Landing platform cinematic at the end of the piece, like chief is battling his way to the ship. I understand that you were using the cinematics in between to narrate in a sense, but that killed the vibe of what a dream is for me. I was also really put off by the text in the breakdown, for obvious reasons. i thought this would have been a great place to include narrative cinematics to connect the body to the theme.

I shut it off after that, not because the video was bad but i just don't enjoy watching halo 5 very much. I thought the concrete aspects of the edit were pretty flawless but the concept was lacking in a number of places. The thing about surrealism is that it's a combination of unreality and the concrete world around us, and that's more of what i was expecting. When i started seeing "dreams" and different sequences i was hyped to see things that don't belong on the game, or things that didn't make sense. The best place to start would have been the game audio then to keep working from there but it just didn't unfold enough for the concept alone to keep my attention. I would have liked to see more peripheral use (things from outside halo meshed in with the sequences) and a stronger use of color (or lack thereof). I got a surreal vibe from the cinematics no doubt but it would have been much cooler to just mash everything together with a shorter narrative imo.

good work all around, will probably get around to watching the second half at some point.

 

I've seen the full video now and watched some more parts over again. When I clicked on the thread, I figured I'd see these type of reviews; there's always some predictable critiques and opinions on this forum.
 
I personally feel like the gameplay is being over-criticized. I get the variety complaints and such, but it seems like just about anyone now can get away with labeling a social montage that has high medals a "duck-hunting" display, and pass with a good critique. To be honest (and maybe what I'm about to say isn't the case, but I really think it is) if Dutchy and Fatrat, or some other social tagers we all like on here came out with 30 minutes of gameplay like this, I think we'd all say shit like "you guys are ridiculous, fkn robots; how do you not choke?; your guy's ability to get such a high volume of consistently good clips is absurd" and all the other praise you can think of. After all, Fatrat won the entire contest last time, and the style of gameplay is really no different.
 
Now sure, we might still say the tage is too long, or that "I don't like the theme/ song", and all the other side-stuff regardless of who the gameplay was by. But purely on the gameplay front, I think one of the reasons many of you personally can't think of a clip in this tage that makes you say "OMFG wow" is in large part because you don't typically play H5 anyway and don't really know what the standard for "OMFG wow" even is. I realize there is an assumption underlying that statement, but i really think that's what it is. And I think we're all fine with people admitting that "yeah, i couldn't finish the video because I don't particularly like halo 5, and not to mention, the video is 30 minutes long." But acting like the clips aren't that impressive is odd, because I bet there's not a single clip in this tage that many of you wouldn't save (and many of you are all great content creators, so that means something).
 
And some of the clips are pretty well under-pressure to be honest. I think a lot of people just fail to notice because they see so many medals pop up onto their screen, so they just call the whole thing a duck-hunting compilation and call it a day. If people know anything about montaging in this game, it's that you kind of have to get super high multis for what you get to be considered a clip in a social playlist, especially since all of the team playlists don't have the exterm medal.
 
Anyway, I just thought this needed to be said, because when the voting starts, the real reason people won't vote for this is because it's long, they personally don't like the theme, they don't like halo 5, and they personally don't think the gameplay is good cuz it's just a bunch of high multi clips like they've always seen in the past (and im not sure those are good reasons, considering social gameplay of this caliber usually got high praise in other halo games and by more well-known and respected content-creators at least on this forum).
 
And again, personally, I think on the merits of both quality and quantity in the gameplay and editing department, this exceeds Kampy's most recent Halo 5 montage that was submitted to this competition, and we all know the sterling and flattering reviews that got for some reason.
 

Well, as I said before, my biggest problem with the clips is that there aren't any that really stand out. I've watched Kampy's H5M1 twice and I pretty clearly remember the best clips in that montage. He had a long range stick jaro which he continued into a stick naire. Another clip was a ricochet over continued into an all noscope jaro. Not to mention two quickscope naires while being shot at. I got 18 minutes into Dreams and could barely recall anything I had just watched. 

Although this video has a lot of great gameplay,  really good editing, and a lot of effort went into it, it's just boring. Kampy's is short and sweet. Many of the clips are amazing and memorable. In Dreams, the clips are repetitive and, even though there probably are some amazing clips (i don't remember), nothing stands out because there's 30 minutes of footage. Of course, you could argue it's not their fault since montaging in H5 is just more difficult so you're forced into playing the same maps and playlists but that doesn't change the fact that it does get repetitive and boring. Also, montages in Reach/4/5 have never been as impressive as H3 ones in my eyes since sniping is a fucking joke in these games. 

Lastly, FatRat's gameplay blows this out of the water lol. Go watch it again.

I obviously appreciate Felix's tage, i voted for it to win the contest in the championship heat. But there is no difference between the types of clips he was going for and the kind of clips sought after in this tage (both noob-hunting and going for high-multis).

The difference is obviously that the games are different. And well if every game after halo 3 is a joke of a game to snipe in (and it seems that a lot of people on this forum would agree with you) then I guess it's gonna be one hell of an uphill battle to compete with a lot of these h2 and h3 videos even if you make a quality tage in one of those games. I think people do get a sense that those games (reach, h4, h5) are easier to snipe in, but then again, that's why there is such a high standard on the medals in those games as well.

A lot of social tagers in h3 and h2 can get away with saving overkills/killtacks which would have no business getting saved in H5. I myself have used some awful shit in the past for h3 vids that people liked merely because it was h3 gameplay. You see none of that shit in this tage.

I think one of the reasons you can remember some of Kampy's clips in that h5 tage so well (besides the fact that it's way shorter obviously) is because some of the clips are notaby worse than the ones you pointed out. In fact, 2-3 of them are worse than every single clip in this entire 30-minute display by my estimation. I could be wrong but the FFA beam rifle nosc triple kill he used in the vid was quite a bit below the standard of his other gameplay and definitely below the standard of this video, and there was 1 or 2 others I was scratching my head on as well (I'd have to go back and look).

My point is that it's a silly criticism of a montage to say that you couldn't point to some clips in the vid that stood out when much of the gameplay was up to a consistently high caliber. Of course your gonna be able to point out the best clips in a tage when a lot of the clips are below the standard of the ones that were eye-catching. If you watched a halo 3 tage of a lot of social tasts, pocs, and naires, it might be more difficult to point out the best ones. That doesn't mean the tage wasn't insane. And like I said earlier, the main reason you can't point them out in this vid is probably because they're hard to pick out when you've barely (if at all) played the game.

Average clips are what make the amazing clips stand out. If you have 30 minutes of high caliber clips with no variety they're all going to pan out to be average instead of amazing. It's the same reason I tell newer montage makers to avoid putting multikills one after another in videos using the same weapon on the same map. If they just got a frenzy, and then they show another clip on the exact same map but it's only a triple, even if it's an amazing triple, the viewer is stuck thinking, "so where's the frenzy?".

 

Sometimes less is more, especially in the gameplay department :)

@Sucky You make some good points and yeah, you're definitely right in regard to Kampy's montage. I just went back and watched it and the clips are well below Dreams standards besides the few amazing ones.

@HAble I agree. I make a conscious effort to not have consecutive clips on the same map (unless they're both good lol) and I usually ramp up montages by placing the best clips towards the end and a few throughout the montage to keep the viewer's attention. 

Holy shit, a 30 min video what is this 2005? I skipped parts due to dislike of H5 but you did amazingly consistent job with the syncing!
 
Now sure, we might still say the tage is too long, or that "I don't like the theme/ song", and all the other side-stuff regardless of who the gameplay was by. But purely on the gameplay front, I think one of the reasons many of you personally can't think of a clip in this tage that makes you say "OMFG wow" is in large part because you don't typically play H5 anyway and don't really know what the standard for "OMFG wow" even is. I realize there is an assumption underlying that statement, but i really think that's what it is.


yep, maybe thats it. But why could i tell you than atleast of 5 "OMG WOW"-moments that i had in kampys tage. 




And again, personally, I think on the merits of both quality and quantity in the gameplay and editing department, this exceeds Kampy's most recent Halo 5 montage that was submitted to this competition, and we all know the sterling and flattering reviews that got for some reason

For some reason? I thought there were enough reasons why you could love the tage - like i do. Let speak things clear out: Im not hating this video. I can't imagine how much time and work it took Rob to edit a video this caliber in such a clean way. He also created a decent theme which is a plus. And i think Emnion and Rougzy made sure, that there where only their best clips in the video which isn't so simple if you know how many clips ethan gets.
 

If you ask me which Montage (kampy's or this) would get my vote (if i had to pick only one) i would choose kampy's. Why? yes, the effort to edit his tage is much much less and the actual edit is kept pretty simple. Yes, his montage is "just" 5 minutes long and some clips could be declared as questionable. BUT...the montage got me with a catchy Song, a few mindblowing clips and kampy's unique style to the get out of different situations. Yes, so easy are montages for me. 

But I respect your opinion sucky. <3

respect your opinion as well Deany, that's just how I see things, no hard feelings.