for the record he didnt play particularly well with Leffen lol. that nair train tho.
Super Smash Brothers Thread: 64, Melee, Brawl, & Smash 4 (Casual and Competitive Discussion)
WTFox going on here, Top 32 is finishing up and Top 16 will be tonight after a short break.
oh my god I played the best I've ever played at a tournament today. I beat 3 people I've never been able to beat to get 2nd place when I surely would've gotten 5th any other day. as soon as the sets get uploaded i'll post them here. I was incredibly proud of how i played today, cant wait to show you guys.
also Leffen is looking fucking unstoppable lately. He is truly showing just how good fox can be with his godlike neutral and fundamentals
oh my god I played the best I've ever played at a tournament today. I beat 3 people I've never been able to beat to get 2nd place when I surely would've gotten 5th any other day. as soon as the sets get uploaded i'll post them here. I was incredibly proud of how i played today, cant wait to show you guys.
also Leffen is looking fucking unstoppable lately. He is truly showing just how good fox can be with his godlike neutral and fundamentals
congrats man! i cant wait to see those sets.
Leffen has been playing amazing yes, but i think it says something that Mango will be playing most of this week off-stream. i was watching Ken's stream a week ago and he was taking about WTFox and how Mango may not "show all of his cards" right before Evo. While this is kinda dumb to say in such a competitive feel I also think we will never see a more try-hard Mango than this weekend.
3EVO TIME!!!
those moments seem to be fleeting as of late, as leffen and others have caught up to his raw skill. i'd argue that the very top players' greater use of great shield drops and consistently good options oos are an area where mango is lagging behind but then you have players like Westballz who cannot seem to break the Top 4 and struggles as a whole at large majors.
just watched the 2nd set and wow that was great. you each had some silly SDs but overall it was super close and you both played well.
a few things i noticed: shines were fucking on point for the most part, DI was very good but i noticed a couple SDIs of yours that you maybe could have survived, lasers could use some work in the neutral (sometimes you were giving him free approaches with your double lasering), had a few opportunities for chaingrabs that i would have loved to see, edgegaurding was pretty good for the most part, most of all i would definitely vary your recoveries a little more as you seemed to almost always firefox landing onto stage (had a quite a few opportunities for full side-b recovery into edge for a punish instead of staying out in firefox).
overall i see so much potential man, there are just a few things i think you should incorporate into your game more (more varied recoveries, chaingrabs, further spaced lasers, upmash OOS). in fact, i'd recommend watching your set with ragnorok again and place yourself in his shoes instead of yourself, he was trying to catch you with some OOS upsmashes that could have been timed just a bit better.
take it all with a grain of salt, you would most likely destroy me right now, just wanted to give you some perspective on what i saw.
i'm always open for criticism man, in fact i love it because i'm always striving to get better.
one of the bigger problems of being a fox main is nerves, you can clearly tell there were points i wanted to Shine/upsmash OOS (which i'm very proficient at), but my hands were literally shaking by game 5 so there were a lot of technical flubs. another thing i'm really bad at is going into auto-pilot. Fox literally has SO many good options that sometimes its hard to pick the best decision really quick especially in something wonky like fox dittos.
i did notice my recovery was lacking, and i'm working on SDI a lot. I know how it works and I can SDI simple things like fox up air but being able to SDI multi hit moves like his dair is something i need to work on a lot.
but dude i appreciate you taking the time to watch and critique them. sometimes it's best to get a separate point of view to truly understand whats going on
feel better man.
notable upsets from yesterday: darkrain eliminates wizzy, westballz loses to Ken (double 3-stock), Amsa loses to Light, Eddy Mexico beats the Moon for Top 32.
Top 32 Bracket
