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First of all, I hate you.

Secondly, there's no rush. I'm proud to say that I've not taken any specific stance on ANY issue without hearing expert advice, and moral advice. I guess that one day I'd like to see myself having some sort of impact on the way the government is run in a way that is more then the purely symbolic gesture of voting. (Waking Life)

I don't care to label myself anything, but like I said...I'm struggling for self definition.
First off, I mean nothing rude, but I am going to say it how i see it.
I am proud to say that I make up my mind on an issue because I already have my beliefs, so its easy to fit them into whatever issue I hear about, and see if they agree or disagree with my core principles. And before i make a final judgement call on an issue I research it to see if I know all of the facts and opinions. If you dont stand for something, you will stand for anything. And if you cant make up your mind about what you believe now, how can you expect to do more then that when you are under pressure in an elected political office?if you want to make a difference, you have to be informed. Start reading the news every day( dont read newspapers, youll learn nothing.) Start reading blogs, conservative and liberal, and see where the facts of every issue take you. NEVER be emotional, always use logic, or else you will overlook facts that may change your opinions, and you may even overlook the truth of a matter. Ignorance and apathy are killing our country, because people dont think National politics or even Local ones affect them at all.
Check out the Drudgereport.com, its an awesome news site which only post links to actual news stories, so you dont have to worry about it being tilted on way or the other before you make up your mind.


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First off, I mean nothing rude, but I am going to say it how i see it.
I am proud to say that I make up my mind on an issue because I already have my beliefs, so its easy to fit them into whatever issue I hear about, and see if they agree or disagree with my core principles. And before i make a final judgement call on an issue I research it to see if I know all of the facts and opinions. If you dont stand for something, you will stand for anything. And if you cant make up your mind about what you believe now, how can you expect to do more then that when you are under pressure in an elected political office?if you want to make a difference, you have to be informed. Start reading the news every day( dont read newspapers, youll learn nothing.) Start reading blogs, conservative and liberal, and see where the facts of every issue take you. NEVER be emotional, always use logic, or else you will overlook facts that may change your opinions, and you may even overlook the truth of a matter. Ignorance and apathy are killing our country, because people dont think National politics or even Local ones affect them at all.
Check out the Drudgereport.com, its an awesome news site which only post links to actual news stories, so you dont have to worry about it being tilted on way or the other before you make up your mind.
The whole reason behind my moderate stance is because I want to take on ALL issues as they come to me and I want to see both sides of all arguments without bias.

My personal belief is that I rarely deal in absolutes. I use logic in ALL reasoning and I feel as though I've learned a great deal in my life.

I have the (rare, I think) ability to look down both streets and see the argument as they are presented to me. I don't want to waste that ability. I'd like to use it to its full potential before making a serious stand on one side of that road or the other.

I appreciate your response. I check Drudge often. Thanks for the advice, though!
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And The Lib/Dems would never say anything like this! whatever, Bill Maher just said he thought Cheney should have died, on his tv show. And dont excuse that one unless your willing to excuse Coulter. Its unfortuneate, but politics is becoming so partisan that now people think nothing of using personal insults instead of facts.
There's a big difference in out right calling somebody a "faggot". Since when is calling somebody a fag a joke anyways. And Bill Maher saying, "they are trying to kill him over there, so we don't have to kill him over hear". You see, Maher's joke was funny and whitty, and Coulter's comment was not funny. I never seem to get that right wing humor, oh wait remember when she told the 9/11 widows to "shut the hell up and take there money". Man that shemale colter is hilarious.

And you know why I like Bill Maher, cause he's just as critical of democrats as anybody else. Maybe I need to grow up and listen to more "moderate" commentators. Michael Savage, and Rush. You pretty much don't get any more moderate than those guys.

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And you know why I like Bill Maher, cause he's just as critical of democrats as anybody else. \
Nooooooooooooooooooooo he's not. Maher is too busy making Bush jokes to be saying enough negative ranting towards democrats to be equally critical on both sides.
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Nooooooooooooooooooooo he's not. Maher is too busy making Bush jokes to be saying enough negative ranting towards democrats to be equally critical on both sides.
EVERYONE is too busy making Bush jokes.

He's a laughing stock of the country. The media is in love with him because he's always giving the major networks one-liners and screwing up so much it gets to the point where people have just stopped laughing.
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Yeah, I saw this yesterday actually on YouTube. I was intrigued with her stupidity so I looked her up some more, and it was amazing how much air time she gets. Check her out on some videos with 'Hannity & Colmes', (I hate that show), but they have her on several times and it's like she has absolutley no idea what she is talking about.

Also, she was in an interview and stated something like, "Canadians helped our boys in Vietnam". The interviewer looked at her like she was stupid and calmly stated that she was wrong. She then proceeds to repeatedly say that she is right. (She was in fact wrong)

What-A-Dumbass.

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Two things:

1. Unless you are the world-wide expert on everything, then you should be listening to other people on things. I am not going to go to superjohnboy for medical advice because he has his own beliefs and I hope you do not do the same. This goes for all topics. There is most likely someone smarter than you on everything out there.

2. Bill Maher is a Commedian. He has been in 22 films and T.V. shows in a comedic role. His monolauges and commentary are all comedic satire meant to make light of politcs and life.

Ann Coulter, his friend sadly, is the devil.


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..... or not i'd still do her
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Did you not get it from my post? I said the two use nearly identical propaghanda tactics.
The Nazi propaganda was used for different reasons than besides the common one of obtaining power. Comparing the two parties is illogical.


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The comparison is perfectly valid, and it's far more correct than otherwise.
Otherwise? Like comparing Libertarians to Communists? Ridiculous. There are better comparisons to use besides that.


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Why? I'm not the use using manipulative tactics.
Conservatives aren't as "manipulative" as you think, most of them are hardworking, honest people and you have no right to go around generalizing.


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Just about everything the Right has done lately has been wrong, and they deserve criticism.
What they don't deserve is to be compared to the most atrocious people who ever existed. Whenever I hear someone say "Bush is a Nazi" I can't help but get riled up after I heard what the Nazis act like, seeing as I've heard a few holocaust survivors present at my school.


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I only said they use(d) nearly identical tactics, which they did.
They're Nazis. Their name shouldn't just be thrown about like it's not going to offend anyone.



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Bulls**t. All I said is that they use the same propaghanda tactics that the Nazi's did, THAT'S ALL!
You also said you find it to be extremely disturbing. Why is that again?



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The Nazi propaganda was used for different reasons than besides the common one of obtaining power. Comparing the two parties is illogical.
You seriously don't get what I was trying to say, do you? I was making a comparison between their propaghanda methods, and nothing else. The living breathing evolving fact of the matter is that the Republicans are using very similar political tactics that the early Nazi's used.

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Otherwise? Like comparing Libertarians to Communists? Ridiculous. There are better comparisons to use besides that.
I compared the two parties because of the similarity of their tactics. What's wrong with that? It's a real-world comparison that is based very strongly in fact. Conservatives aren't the only ones using said tactics: anti-gun groups use the same techinques.

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Conservatives aren't as "manipulative" as you think, most of them are hardworking, honest people and you have no right to go around generalizing.
You really believe that just because someone doesn't support the war, they aren't supporting the troops? Conservative officals have been using this flawed slogan for awhile, and it's worked against the moronic. Face it, it's a very manipulative slogan, and it's supporting 'reasons' are equally so.

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What they don't deserve is to be compared to the most atrocious people who ever existed. Whenever I hear someone say "Bush is a Nazi" I can't help but get riled up after I heard what the Nazis act like, seeing as I've heard a few holocaust survivors present at my school.
I didn't say conservatives were planning on any sort of genocide. Again, all I said is that they're using Hitler's propaganda tactics. If you still can't see what I'm saying, you need to take a reading comprehension class.
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