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12-04-2007
Default How to Maximize effects of taking Creatine?

So far the best I gander, is that loading is pointless, and that people who have done research have found that taking your normal supplement of 5g/ a day (for me) is just as beneficial as loading, where you take 20g/ a day for the first 5-7 days, and then a maintenance of creatine there after.

So my plans are to take 5 Grams a day after my workouts on days that I work out, and then in the morning take creatine one days that I don't work out. I'm gonna take 2 months of creatine, and then one month off two cycle the creatine and insure that my bodys natural proccess of producing natural creatine isn't hindered.

So to all my Gym buffs (lol at a halo forum), does this sound about right?
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I don't know much, but one of my friends was telling me that as soon as you stop taking it, you lose that mass pretty quickly, is that true? If it is, then that 1 month down time could be a problem...unless you just lift.
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I don't know much, but one of my friends was telling me that as soon as you stop taking it, you lose that mass pretty quickly, is that true? If it is, then that 1 month down time could be a problem...unless you just lift.
I do lift, regulary, I go the gym atleast 5 times a week.
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1. First I don't recommend using creatine. Depending on your age especially. How old are you? I forget.

2. Loading is not necessary. It is just a way for them to sell more and make you think that you actually made huge gains that are actually just water mass.

3. 5 grams a day max. Cut it to 2.5 before the workout and 2.5 after. Anything else is just excessive and will be excreted through the urine. If you are working out 5 times a day, then take the 2 other days off and do not use. It will just put more stress on your kidneys than you need when your body is already at it's creatine saturation point as is.


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1. First I don't recommend using creatine. Depending on your age especially. How old are you? I forget.

2. Loading is not necessary. It is just a way for them to sell more and make you think that you actually made huge gains that are actually just water mass.

3. 5 grams a day max. Cut it to 2.5 before the workout and 2.5 after. Anything else is just excessive and will be excreted through the urine. If you are working out 5 times a day, then take the 2 other days off and do not use. It will just put more stress on your kidneys than you need when your body is already at it's creatine saturation point as is.
Im 17, and through my growth spurt, I know you reach your highest age of physical maturation at like 26, but I'm 6'2 and I don't forsee myself getting much bigger physically.

And I'm not gonna load, like you said it is un-necessary. And I read on a Oregon University health page, that for someone who is between 200-250, I'm 210 that about 5g is what you should take after a workout, I also read to not take it before a workout, it isn't bad as some people have different opinions but it said it would be the most beneficial for me to take it after a workout, I can find the article if you'd like.

BTW I deff didn't mean 5 times a day, 5 times a week. lol
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Yea I wouldn't take it on days when you aren't working out, and I never did the loading either.
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Yea I wouldn't take it on days when you aren't working out, and I never did the loading either.
Once again through my research, I was recommended by a health magazine to take a normal dose of in the morning when I wake up, on days that I don't workout.
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Im 17, and through my growth spurt, I know you reach your highest age of physical maturation at like 26, but I'm 6'2 and I don't forsee myself getting much bigger physically.

And I'm not gonna load, like you said it is un-necessary. And I read on a Oregon University health page, that for someone who is between 200-250, I'm 210 that about 5g is what you should take after a workout, I also read to not take it before a workout, it isn't bad as some people have different opinions but it said it would be the most beneficial for me to take it after a workout, I can find the article if you'd like.

BTW I deff didn't mean 5 times a day, 5 times a week. lol
Oh, in my head I knew you meant 5 times a week.

Your body will not use all the creatine if you just take it right after you work out.

If you split it before your workout and after your workout, 2.5 grams at both time, you will get more out of it with out wasting it.

Now, you are obviously aware of the maturation process and have researched the risks at your age, but I will reiterate that I HIGHLY do not recommend you to take this now.

It isn't your muscles and joints I would be worried about the most but your internal organs. This is going to put strain on you in so many ways, when the organs are not fully matured they can react poorly.

I am not going to say that you will not see increased results, just that the damage you will do will not be seen till later. It is just increased wear and tear on your body that will affect you more when you are later.

If you just wait 4 more years then I would totally not say this.

Especially at your weight, you should be sitting pretty well for strength as is. Protein (2 types of proteing that is) and a good multivitamin would be all I recommend as at your age you are hyperproducing all the material you need already. Your body right now is a factory of over production.

And remember that a lot of that "research" is not published. Anything that isn't in a respected journal . . . is not real reaserch that you can trust.


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well all i can say is , if u decide to take creatine take lots of water at least 2 gallons a day or else your liver is going to get raped! remember water is the key to creatine , and please eat alot of carbs like whole grain bread , veggies , beans and grains , oatmeal etc.
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Oh, in my head I knew you meant 5 times a week.

Your body will not use all the creatine if you just take it right after you work out.

If you split it before your workout and after your workout, 2.5 grams at both time, you will get more out of it with out wasting it.

Now, you are obviously aware of the maturation process and have researched the risks at your age, but I will reiterate that I HIGHLY do not recommend you to take this now.

It isn't your muscles and joints I would be worried about the most but your internal organs. This is going to put strain on you in so many ways, when the organs are not fully matured they can react poorly.

I am not going to say that you will not see increased results, just that the damage you will do will not be seen till later. It is just increased wear and tear on your body that will affect you more when you are later.

If you just wait 4 more years then I would totally not say this.

Especially at your weight, you should be sitting pretty well for strength as is. Protein (2 types of proteing that is) and a good multivitamin would be all I recommend as at your age you are hyperproducing all the material you need already. Your body right now is a factory of over production.

And remember that a lot of that "research" is not published. Anything that isn't in a respected journal . . . is not real reaserch that you can trust.
Is there any research you can cite that has reliabe results of the effects of creatine on your internal organs down the road? I'm not being a smartass, I'm acutally wondering.

Also yea I do have a good amount of weight I can lift, I rep about 185 on bench, which is average I guess, and I'm looking to really get up to a about repping 215, 225. I'm trying to build loads of mass right now, so that the 'leaning' process will inturn be easier down the road. And I am taking a Mulit-vitamin. And once again lol, I read somwhere that if my water intake is very higher, it really doesnt show much wear and tear on my kidneys, as opposed to not drinking water. Any truth to this? And by the way I do appreciate your input, seeing as I know that you are the most credible expert I can find on biological process' due to our Stem Cell lecture you gave me.
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